Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2670 ============================== CFJ 2670 ============================== Agora can be Satisfied with an intent to perform a dependent action With 2 Support (that does not also specify being performed With Notice). ======================================================================== Caller: ais523 Barred: coppro Judge: c. Judgement: TRUE Appeal: 2670a Decision: (pending) ======================================================================== History: Called by ais523: 28 Aug 2009 20:32:19 GMT Assigned to c.: 28 Aug 2009 20:42:15 GMT Judged TRUE by c.: 28 Aug 2009 20:42:15 GMT Appealed by ais523: 28 Aug 2009 20:47:13 GMT Appealed by c.: 28 Aug 2009 20:50:18 GMT Appealed by Wooble: 28 Aug 2009 21:50:46 GMT Appeal 2670a: 28 Aug 2009 21:50:46 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: The bar on coppro is not because I think e'd be a bad judge, but to force a rotation. This CFJ is called mostly because of a scam, although the judge should look into whether rule 2124 is really broken or not (it's a rather important question). ======================================================================== Judge c.'s Arguments: Item (4) is part of the list of conditions with no explicit connective-- Agora is satisfied if and only if ((1) and (2) and (3); (4)). The interpretation of the semicolon is unclear. The most obvious interpretation is another "and", in which case item (4), that the action to be performed is With Notice, is required for all dependent actions; but the semicolon could also be replaced with an "or", where Agora is satisfied if and only if ((1) and (2) and (3)) OR (4). In normal circumstances, the former interpretation should prevail, but as that interpretation completely breaks a large part of the game, we may consider the lack of conjunction an inclarity, and use the latter interpretation out of concern for the best interests of the game. TRUE. ======================================================================== Judge c.'s Evidence: Rule 2124/13 (Power=2) Agoran Satisfaction [...] Agora is Satisfied with an intent to perform a specific action if and only if: (1) if the action is to be performed Without N Objections, then it has fewer than N objectors; (2) if the action is to be performed With N supporters, then it has N or more supporters; and (3) if the action is to be performed with N Agoran Consent, then the ratio of supporters to objectors is greater than N, or the action has at least one supporter and no objectors. (4) The action to be performed is With Notice. ========================================================================