Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2736a ================= Appeal 2736a (Interest Index = 0) ================== Panelist: Tiger Decision: AFFIRM Panelist: G. Decision: AFFIRM Panelist: coppro Decision: AFFIRM ======================================================================== History: Appeal initiated: 24 Nov 2009 23:06:21 GMT Assigned to Tiger (panelist): 28 Nov 2009 23:46:24 GMT Assigned to G. (panelist): 28 Nov 2009 23:46:24 GMT Assigned to coppro (panelist): 28 Nov 2009 23:46:24 GMT Tiger moves to AFFIRM: 28 Nov 2009 23:52:41 GMT coppro moves to AFFIRM: 29 Nov 2009 00:05:26 GMT G. moves to AFFIRM: 01 Dec 2009 23:06:21 GMT Final decision (AFFIRM): 01 Dec 2009 23:06:21 GMT ======================================================================== Appellant Murphy's Arguments: I interpret this as a judgement. I intend (with 2 support) to appeal it, requesting REASSIGN because the judge made no attempt to address the evidence giving possible definitions of "zooping". ======================================================================== Appellant ais523's Arguments: If possible, I support. The ambiguity as to what exactly zooping means is the whole point of the CFJ. ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by c.: I recommend AFFIRM. Per CFJ 1536, the judge not knowing what an action meant is good evidence that it can't possibly have been clear to everyone. ======================================================================== Panelist Tiger's Arguments: I agree with c. and opine AFFIRM. ======================================================================== Panelist coppro's Arguments: I opine AFFIRM, and I would like a Concurring Opinion on this one. ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by G.: How's this for a simple concurring opinion: Minor research into the term (which could have been performed by the judge) suggests that "to zoop" something generally means to activate an act-on-behalf contract with respect to a dependent action (particularly with respect to standing instructions for getting Support numbers for a particular class of action). With neither a contract nor a dependent action referred to, ais523's assertion that Agorans "have a basic idea of what it's meant to mean" is false. This Panel really has no idea. The situation is so far removed from the original that the term's relationship to a meaningful action has broken down. Whether situations slightly closer to the original would work - e.g. at least somehow involving act-on-behalf or somehow involving dependent actions - must be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The fact that the original judge, without further research, didn't understand the meaning is an argument towards the term's growing obscurity with time, but that is secondary as it is likely that many Agorans still understand the original context of the term. Error rating: coppro propose one? ======================================================================== Panelist G.'s Arguments: [no opinion given] ========================================================================