Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2760 =================== CFJ 2760 (Interest Index = 0) ==================== Murphy CAN award me at least 20 x-points. ======================================================================== Caller: coppro Judge: Yally Judgement: FALSE ======================================================================== History: Called by coppro: 22 Jan 2010 03:14:42 GMT Assigned to Yally: 30 Jan 2010 07:04:36 GMT Judged FALSE by Yally: 30 Jan 2010 16:42:42 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: I was owed in excess of 20 x-points last week from the FRContest (as clearly stated in Murphy's awards message for that week), but due to prior awards, it was IMPOSSIBLE. Does the general principle that a SHALL ASAP becomes an open-ended SHALL apply even when it is impossible? ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by Murphy: I think this is FALSE for the following reasons, though #2 and #3 apply only to contests with the same circumstances: 1) Rule 2233's "except" might apply to both the CAN and SHALL. 2) The FRContest awards are SHALL ASAP after the end of a week, thus the duration of the CANNOT coincides precisely with the duration of the ASAP. 3) The FRContest explicitly states "subject to limits imposed by the rules". ======================================================================== Judge Yally's Arguments: I judge this FALSE. Murphy's arguments should be sufficient to force this case to be false, but I would like to set precedent that CAN does not imply SHALL as SHALL is simply defined as: 6. MUST, SHALL, REQUIRED, MANDATORY: Failing to perform the described action violates the rule in question. Just because you're doing something illegal doesn't mean there's necessarily a way to avoid that. However, failing to award Murphy 20x points would cause you to be guilty of a crime, as in order to be guilty the following must be true: (e) the Accused could have reasonably avoided committing the breach without committing a different breach of equal or greater severity. ========================================================================