Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2775 =================== CFJ 2775 (Interest Index = 1) ==================== Next Tuesday, U.S. Eastern time, a player will exist whose nickname is 'Warrigal' ======================================================================== Caller: allispaul Judge: ais523 Judgement: UNDETERMINED ======================================================================== History: Called by allispaul: 21 Mar 2010 23:03:21 GMT Assigned to ais523: 22 Mar 2010 11:59:05 GMT Judged UNDETERMINED by ais523: 22 Mar 2010 12:48:55 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Warrigal wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > I initiate an election for Herald. I nominate myself and Warrigal for > > Herald. > > > > -coppro > > I accept this nomination. I change my nickname to uorygl on Mondays, > Wednesdays and Fridays U.S. Eastern time. > > --Warrigal ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by Yally: Nicknames have long been established as not really meaning anything. Therefore, regardless of the day, e will still be Warrigal, or uorygl, or whatever nicknames e has chosen for himself that unambiguously refer to em. Even if e announces that e no longer wishes to be called Warrigal, e will still be Warrigal. Generally, though, if a player's requests for name changes are infrequent and reasonable, they'll be respected by the Agoran community. ======================================================================== Judge ais523's Arguments: The key to these cases is that nicknames are not regulated by the rules (apart from the prohibition on selecting a confusing nickname in rule 2170, which is mostly irrelevant here); instead, a "nickname" is a name by which a person is generally referred to in informal settings (according to my understanding of the standard English meaning). At the moment, the phrase in question in CFJ 2774 is far from a customary way to refer to Warrigal / uorygl, so CFJ 2774 is trivially FALSE. As for CFJ 2775, it is probably too early to say what name the player in question will be referred to as in most people's minds tomorrow. I most easily think of the player as Warrigal (and to some extent, even ihope127 / Ivan Hope; if that's someone else, my memory of nickname changes must be really confused...), but if everyone starts calling em uorygl, that name could be being used instead. (And it's even possible for a person to gain a nickname they didn't select for emself; this happens frequently in non-Agoran settings, although the only example I can think of in Agora is G. being referred to as Gravity for a short length of time after eir name change until e stated eir preferred abbreviation publicly.) Nickname changes don't work by changing some magic switch in the gamestate; instead, they work because one person asks to be called by a certain name, and other people follow suit. Therefore, there's currently not enough data to know what nickname Warrigal / uorygl will have tomorrow, and I judge CFJ 2775 UNDETERMINED. (Note that this would also be the result even if nickname changes were rules-defined but not rate-limited, due to the possibility that e would change eir nickname again some time today.) ========================================================================