Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2807 =================== CFJ 2807 (Interest Index = 0) ==================== I registered in the quoted message ======================================================================== Caller: ehird Judge: ais523 Judgement: FALSE ======================================================================== History: Called by ehird: 26 Jun 2010 20:13:39 GMT Assigned to ais523: 27 Jun 2010 17:35:19 GMT Judged FALSE by ais523: 27 Jun 2010 18:13:47 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: I intended to register when composing the above message, not realising that I was already registered, and I think that intent is conveyed clearly enough in this message to satisfy R869. I am obviously a first-class person, so it seems to me that I must have been registered, despite already being a player. However, according to R869: The verb "to be registered" means to become a player (i.e., to have one's citizenship changed from Unregistered to Registered), My citizenship cannot have been changed from Unregistered to Registered, because it was not Unregistered to start with. Yet the rules explicitly state that I can and did register. Although I'm not entirely sure what that message did, I'm pretty sure the outcome is that everything is the same as before I posted that message. ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: On 26 June 2010 21:12, Elliott Hird wrote: > I assume the office of Mary; and prior to doing so, Godot registers. > > Godot is me, as of before the previous line. > > As of this line, however, Godot is not me. Godot must therefore be waited for. > ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by Murphy: Rule 869's definition of registration in paragraph 2 ("to have one's citizenship changed from Unregistered to Registered") is sufficient to trigger the exception clause in paragraph 3 ("unless explicitly ... prevented by the rules"). ======================================================================== Judge ais523's Arguments: I judge CFJ 2807 FALSE. In order to "become" a player, ehird would have to not be a player at the time; thus, an intention to register whilst already a player would have to include an implicit intention to deregister in order to work. There clearly isn't enough evidence to read the interpretation "I deregister and register again" into ehird's message, especially as such an action would be impossible due to the cooldown period; thus, ehird's intent to become a player failed due to the gamestate not being one in which e could become a player (just like you can't transfer away an asset you don't have) and the next-best interpretation making substantially less sense. ========================================================================