Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2836 =================== CFJ 2836 (Interest Index = 0) ==================== Wooble has a White Ribbon. ======================================================================== Caller: Wooble Judge: G. Judgement: FALSE ======================================================================== History: Called by Wooble: 18 Aug 2010 10:42:12 GMT Assigned to G.: 22 Aug 2010 12:13:04 GMT Judged FALSE by G.: 22 Aug 2010 16:44:12 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: by R1586, the continuity of white ribbons was destroyed when the rules ceased to define them; the white ribbons that exist now are not the same type of entity as the white ribbon I gained for being ais523's mentor. ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: I create a White Ribbon in my possession (earned by never having owned a White Ribbon.) ======================================================================== Judge G.'s Arguments: The various ribbon colors are defined fairly indirectly. That is, in R2199, ribbons are defined in general, and the existence of specific colors is inferred through clauses like "...earns a red ribbon." While the (+W) clause vanished from the ruleset, this clause remained through all of R2199/11 through R2199/16: "(except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time within a month after they are earned)," which was sufficient, by this indirect definitional standard, to leave White Ribbons continuously defined and existent (though temporarily unearnable). ========================================================================