Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2850 =================== CFJ 2850 (Interest Index = 1) ==================== G. has joined the Space Alert contest. ======================================================================== Caller: G. Barred: Tiger Judge: coppro Judgement: UNDETERMINED ======================================================================== History: Called by G.: 27 Aug 2010 20:06:54 GMT Assigned to coppro: 28 Aug 2010 00:09:33 GMT Judged UNDETERMINED by coppro: 28 Aug 2010 08:42:06 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: Does this clause: Create a new contest whose contestmaster is the current holder of the office of Ship Computor, whose instructions are the concatenated texts of rules 2297, 2298, 2299, 2300, 2301, 2302 (in the given order), and whose internal gamestate is identical, in all possible respects, to the current state of the subgame of Space Alert as defined by those rules. apply to membership which isn't defined for Space Alert? Does this make me a member without explicit consent? Does the fact that contestification of Space Alert was adopted before contests were defined (proposals 6791 and 6792) matter? Also note, if my voting FOR these proposals (I did) is what makes me consent, it would be interesting to know the answer for someone who didn't vote, or voted AGAINST. Does "participate" in the contest rule mean one can play without "joining"? If any player can "participate", if they break a contest instruction (former rule) what happens? Etc. ======================================================================== Judge coppro's Arguments: UNDETERMINED; the term 'join' has no reasonably-applicable definition in the context of Space Alert. The rules do not define joining a contest, nor does the contest itself. Neither are analogous terms such as being a member, a party to, or a participant of. ========================================================================