Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3087 ============================== CFJ 3087 ============================== Agora can make arbitrary changes to the gamestate. ======================================================================== Caller: Bucky Judge: scshunt Judgement: ======================================================================== History: Called by Bucky: 09 Aug 2011 01:40:17 GMT Assigned to scshunt: 14 Aug 2011 17:49:09 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: [CotC: (1) is this CFJ, (2) is CFJ 3088] The rule quote in the Evidence is worded poorly. Ibelieve (1) is TRUE due to No Cretans Need Apply; however, the last portions of contradictory claims overlap. I believe (2) is FALSE because the relevant clause explicitly mentions players. ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: (from Rule 2351) "The game of Agora, but not any player of it, can make arbitrary changes to the gamestate." Agora is a player according to the most recent Census. ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by G.: If a Rule states an entity CAN do something, but no Rule or physical reality supplies a mechanism, then e CANNOT do it, because any attempt to actually perform the action through an arbitrary undefined mechanism "will not be successful" (R2152). ========================================================================