Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3140 ============================== CFJ 3140 ============================== If, during a Holiday, the CotC assigns a judge to a judicial case other than emself, the CotC has violated rule 1769. ======================================================================== Caller: ais523 Judge: The Person Formerly Known As 441344 Judgement: FALSE Judge: The Person Formerly Known As 441344 Judgement: FALSE ======================================================================== History: Called by ais523: 02 Jan 2012 05:32:15 GMT Assigned to The Person Formerly Known As 441344: 05 Feb 2012 21:14:38 GMT Judged FALSE by The Person Formerly Known As 441344: 06 Feb 2012 21:24:04 GMT Reconsideration requested by Murphy: 07 Feb 2012 05:50:38 GMT Reconsideration requested by Yally: 07 Feb 2012 06:06:11 GMT Reconsideration requested by ehird: 07 Feb 2012 14:24:09 GMT Assigned to The Person Formerly Known As 441344: 07 Feb 2012 17:30:57 GMT Judged FALSE by The Person Formerly Known As 441344: 13 Feb 2012 22:50:35 GMT ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: The relevant part of rule 1769 seems to apply the SHALL NOT to the judge, not to the player who does the assignment. This is probably buggy, and a little weird, but is the best testcase of this I've seen (rather better than attempting to submit players as evidence on a judicial case, or as proposals with the wrong II, or whatever). ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: this excerpt from rule 1769: "judges SHALL NOT be assigned to any judicial case" ======================================================================== Judge The Person Formerly Known As 441344's Arguments: The rule does apply the "SHALL NOT" to the judge who "[is] assigned to any judicial case". I judge case 3140 FALSE and case 3141 TRUE. ======================================================================== Request for reconsideration by Murphy: The literal reading behind these judgements blames the judge for something out of eir control; the less literal reading ("the assigner of judges SHALL NOT assign judges") avoids that problem, and is reasonably obvious to infer. ======================================================================== Judge The Person Formerly Known As 441344's Arguments: The new arguments do not seem to be relevant. There is no rule that prevents rules from making acts that the actor cannot control illegal, and rule 1504(e) suggests that this can happen and nullifies the problem of people being punished for acts they could not have avoided. I once again judge case 3140 FALSE and case 3141 TRUE. ========================================================================