From firstname.lastname@example.org Mon Apr 24 12:33:42 1995 Return-Path: email@example.com Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [184.108.40.206]) by Shamino.quincy.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA00360 for <firstname.lastname@example.org>; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:33:36 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id JAA22209 for nomic-official-outgoing; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:47 -0700 Received: from mizar.astro.indiana.edu (mizar.astro.indiana.edu [220.127.116.11]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA22185 for <email@example.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:39 -0700 Received: from poverty by mizar.astro.indiana.edu with uucp (Smail18.104.22.168 #7) id m0s3QdZ-0001YEC; Mon, 24 Apr 95 11:05 EST Received: by poverty.bloomington.in.us (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <firstname.lastname@example.org>; Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:49:52 EST5 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:49:52 EST5 Message-Id: <email@example.com> From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Kelly Martin) To: email@example.com Subject: OFF: CFJ765: Judgement Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: email@example.com Status: RO ====================================================================== JUDGEMENT OF CFJ 765 (Swann violated Rule 1446 by not transfering all his points...) ====================================================================== Judgement: FALSE Judge: Swann Eligible to Judge: Andre, Blob, Dave Bowen, Chuck, Elde, elJefe, Jeffrey, Kelly, KoJen, Michael, Pascal, Steve, Swann, Vanyel, Xanadu, Oerjan Judge: Coren, declined Eligible to Judge: Andre, Blob, Coren, Dave Bowen, Chuck, Elde, elJefe, Jeffrey, Kelly, KoJen, Michael, Pascal, Steve, Swann, Vanyel, Xanadu Caller: TAL Scorekeepor: Coren loses two points for declining, one of which goes to Kelly. Swann receives 3 Points for timely Judgement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- History: Called Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:25:23 SET by TAL Assigned Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:20 UTC to Coren Declined Tue, 18 Apr 1995 07:50:29 -0700 (PDT) by Coren --> Coren loses 2 Points --> Kelly receives 1 Point Reassigned Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:40 UTC to Swann Judged FALSE Mon, 24 Apr 1995 06:46:41 -0400 by Swann --> Swann receives 3 Points ====================================================================== Statement: "Swann violated Rule 1446 by not transfering all his points and Currencies to the No More Contests Contest Fund and by not going On Hold within an hour after creating his own revengeful Contest." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arguments: The Contestmaster of a Contest has to obey the Regulations of that Contest, according to Rule 1446. By creating a Contest with the name of `Revenge for TAL' in the message with datestamp Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 04:04:15 -0400 Swann became the Contestmaster of the No More Contests Contest, according to its Regulation 5: Reg. 5: In case any player legally creates a Contest, that player replaces the current Contestmaster, and becomes the new Contestmaster. But Regulation 6 stipulates: Reg. 6: Anyone becoming Contestmaster via Reg. 5 must within one hour both go On Hold, and transfer all eir currencies and Points to the Contest Fund. As Swann did not made this transfer, nor went On Hold, he is violating Rule 1446, that states that Regulations must be obeyed by Contest masters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Requested Injunction: I request that the Judge, if e agrees with my Statement, issues Injunctions to the effect that 1) Swann's Formal Apology includes 10 Prescribed Words. I propose the following ten words: I, shall, not, create, Contests, before, reading, all, my, mail 2) the illegal Moves of *not* going On Hold and *not* transfering all currencies to the NMC Contest Fund are retracted; and that the Game State is adjusted such that - Swann is On Hold - he holds no points and no currencies - said points and currencies are held by the NMC Contest Fund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- References (Rule 665, 908, 1446; the message to the Forum creating the Revenge for TAL Contest; the regulations of the NMC Contest) Rule 665/0 (Mutable, MI=1) Injuction--Retracting an Illegal Move If a CFJ alleges that a specific Move is illegal, and the Judgement supports the allegation, the Judge may include with the Judgement an Injunction specifying that the move is to be retracted, and any resulting adjustments to the published game state. The adjustments to the game state must have been unambiguously specified within the CFJ, and these adjustments must only undo actions which were a direct or indirect result of that Move. Rule 908/3 (Mutable, MI=1) Formal Apologies If a Call for Judgement alleges that a Player (herein called the Ninny) has acted or has failed to act in such a way as to be in violation of one or more Rules, and this CFJ is Judged TRUE, then the Ninny must submit to the Public Forum a Formal Apology within 72 hours of the publication of Judgement, unless that Judgement is successfully appealed within 72 hours. By a Formal Apology is meant a letter of at least 200 words, con-taining all of the Prescribed Words (if any were prescribed) ex-plaining the Ninny's error, shame, remorse, and ardent desire for self-improvement. A Judge deciding TRUE in such a CFJ may issue an Injunction including a list of up to ten Prescribed Words of the Judge's choice, and ordering that the Ninny's Formal Apology must include the Prescribed Words. If the Ninny fails to meet these criteria e shall gain 3 Blots. The Player who called the initial CFJ has the duty to report to the Tabulator any Blots gained through this rule. Rule 1446/0 (Mutable, MI=1) Contests A contest is a subgame of Agora Nomic, having its own Name, Entry Fee, Regulations, Contestmaster, and Contest Fund. It is created when a Player posts to the Public Forum an announcement of the contest, including the Name and Regulations. Participants in the subgame are called Contestants of that contest. The player making the post becomes the Contestmaster. The Contestmaster for a given Contest is a Player who has responsibility for administering the subgame. He reports all score changes and currency transfers taking place under the Regulations, administers the Contest Fund, and maintains the Regulations. The Contest Fund is an entity capable of owning, trading, and spending Points or Currencies in the same manner as a Player, but only as authorized by the Regulations. The Regulations specify the operation of the Contest. All Contestants, and the Contestmaster, are bound by the Regulations except where these conflict with the Rules. They may also specify: - how the Contestmaster is replaced, - how currencies and Points are transferred to or from the Contest Fund, - the amount of the Entry Fee for the Contest, which shall be in Points, - additional restrictions on Players to become Contestants, - how the Regulations may be changed, and - ways for the Contest to be dissolved. A Player becomes a Contestant by notifying the Contestmaster and paying the prescribed Entry Fee to the Contest Fund. A Contestant may quit a Contest at any time by so notifying the Contestmaster, or by so posting to the Public Forum. A contest is dissolved when there is no Contestmaster and no provision for replacing em, or as otherwise provided in the rules, or in the Regulations. When this happens the Contest Fund is distributed as provided in the Regulations; if no provision is made the Fund is divided equally between the Contestants. If according to the Regulations the Contest Fund must transfer Points and/or currency to a Contestant, and the Fund does not have sufficient resources, then enough of the Contestmaster's Points and/or currency are transferred to the Fund to cover the transaction. If e does not have sufficient Points or currency to accomplish this, then each Contestant is given back eir entry fee, and the Contestmaster loses the number of Points of the returned entry fees. The Contest is then dissolved. No Blots shall be assigned by this Rule. This transfer is not taxable. This Rule takes precedence over all other Rules which determine which Point and Currency transfers are legal and/or taxable, or which would assign Blots to any Player. Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 04:04:15 -0400 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Steven A Swiniarski) To: email@example.com > > >I am happy to announce that there is a second hole in the Contest Rule! >Note that it is nowhere said who the Contestmaster shall be, nor that >it shall be a participant. >Furthermore, the Contestmaster is not an Officer. Therefore the Regulations >can appoint eim, without his consent. > >After these preliminaries (and just before we disgustedly repeal 1446), >here is: > >TAL's `Make another Contestmaster' Contest. > >Name: Make-another-Contestmaster Contest (MAC Contest) > >Regulations: > >1) Immediately after TAL has become participant in the Contest, the >Player with the highest score in the current game shall become >Contestmaster. >2) The Contestmaster shall transfer 90% of his Points to the Contest as >soon as possible after TAL has become participant. >3) The winner of the Contest shall be TAL. The winner shall receive >all the Points in the Contest Fund. The transfer of these Points >shall be made as soon as possible as the contents of the Funds is >larger than 10 Points. >After the transfer has been made the MAC Contest is dissolved. >4) The participation fee is one Point. > >==== >Scorekeepor, Reform Group Vizier, > >I transfer enough Reform Coins to the Reform Treasury to obtain 1 Point. > >As soon as I have one Point I transfer this Point to the MAC Contest Fund. > >===== >What happens next? > >Well, after these transfers have taken place, the new Contestmaster will >be the Player with the highest score. > >He then must transfer 90% of his Points to the MAC Contest Fund. > >Very soon after that, I become winner of this Contest. > >===== > > >TAL > > Nice, this may work. If it does, I propose the following contest: Revenge for TAL: 1) The Contestmaster of this contest is TAL 2) All points and Currencies owned by the Contestmaster are immediatly transfered to the Contest Fund. 3) All points and Currencies recieved by the Contestmaster are immediatly transfered into the Contest Fund. 4) These regulations cannot be changed. 5) The Contestmaster may not Change 6) No one may win this Contest Take that. Swann -- Steven Swiniarski (aka S Andrew Swann) firstname.lastname@example.org Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship. --Harry S Truman This announcement creates a contest, named "No More Contests", whose Regulations are as follows: Reg. 1: The contestmaster is elJefe. Reg. 2: Immediately after this Contest is created, elJefe is replaced as Contestmaster by Troublemaker at Large. Reg. 3: The Contestmaster may not create any Contests. E must, if possible, dissolve any other Contest in which e is Contestmaster. E may not transfer any points to or from other Contest Funds. Reg. 4: If the Contestmaster is deregistered or forfeits from Agora Nomic, the most recent Contestmaster still registered becomes Contestmaster once again. Reg. 5: In case any player legally creates a Contest, that player replaces the current Contestmaster, and becomes the new Contestmaster. Reg. 6: Anyone becoming Contestmaster via Reg. 5 must within one hour both go On Hold, and transfer all eir currencies and Points to the Contest Fund. E may not come Off Hold until this Contest is dissolved. Anyone becoming Contestmaster for the second time via Reg. 5 must immediately forfeit the game of Agora Nomic. Reg. 7: The Contest is dissolved when Player elJefe posts a message so announcing to the Public Forum. Reg. 8: If the Contest is dissolved, the Contest Fund is distributed to the Wanderers Contest Fund. Reg. 9: The Entry fee is 1000 Points. ======= Greetings, TAL ====================================================================== Judgement: FALSE Arguments: In order to determine the truth or falsity of TAL's Statement, we must determine the Truth or Falsity of the following specific points: 1) The No More Contests Contest (NMC) was a legal Contest via Rule 1446. 2) That the NMC Regulations can, via Rule 1446, require a Player to involuntarily become Contestmaster of NMC and legally force that Player, via Rule 1446, to transfer all eir points and Currencies to the NMC Contest Fund and force that Player to go On Hold. 3) That a violation of Contest Regulations is a Violation of Rule 1446. 4) That my posting crated a valid legal Contest, via rule 1446. 5) That a Contest Creation via point 4) invoked the particular Regulations of the NMC referred to in point 2) 6) That my failure to transfer Points, Currencies or and On Hold was a violation of the NMC Regulations, and via point 4) a violation of Rule 1446. All six items must be valid and true in order for TAL's Statement to be true. I will address each in turn before rendering a Judgement. Point 1) Rule 1446/0 states: "A Contest is created when a Player Posts to the Public Forum an announcement of the contest, including the Name and Regulations." NMC fulfills this requirement, it was posted to the Public Forum with a Name and a list of Regulations, therefore it was legally Created. Point 2) >From the NMC Regs: " Reg. 5: In case any player legally creates a Contest, that player replaces the current Contestmaster, and becomes the new Contestmaster. Reg. 6: Anyone becoming Contestmaster via Reg. 5 must within one hour both go On Hold, and transfer all eir currencies and Points to the Contest Fund. E may not come Off Hold until this Contest is dissolved. Anyone becoming Contestmaster for the second time via Reg. 5 must immediately forfeit the game of Agora Nomic." This is more problematic. First, can a Contest force a Player to become a Contestmaster? Apparently so, since there is no provision within 1446/0, or elsewhere in the rules to prevent it. Next in order of events, can the regulations of that Contest then force a Player to go On Hold? >From 1446/0: "The Regulations specify the operation of the Contest. All Contestants, and the Contestmaster, are bound by the Regulations except where these conflict with the Rules." Does requiring someone to go on Hold conflict with the Rules? It doesn't seem to conflict with 1016/2, which only forbids a Player from putting someone other than eimself on Hold. So far, so good. Now that the Player is on Hold, can e transfer currencies and/or points to the NMC Contest fund as required? Well, Rule 692/2 says nothing preventing a Player On Hold from Trading Points. And Rule 614/1 likewise only refers to Players, not Active Players. Thus these events can be mandated, in the order in which they are mandated. There is, however, an interesting wrinkle to this: >From 1016/2: "While On Hold, a Player may not Vote, propose Proposals, or campaign for or hold Office. E is also absolved of any duties which would otherwise be required of eim, including appointment as a Judge This rule takes precedence over any rule giving special duties to a particular player or a particular group of players." Note that this rule absolves the Player on Hold from *all duties* once e goes on Hold. This *includes* the duty of Contestmaster. Therefore, the Contestmaster referred to in Reg 6 of NMC Regs has ceased to be Contestmaster by the time the first comma is reached. The one immediate side effect of this is the fact that once the Contestmaster goes On Hold, as required, the NMC Regs cease to be binding, since e is no longer the Contestmaster. Side Effect one: E can come off of Hold immediately, since the restriction about remaining on Hold until the Contest is dissolved is non-binding on someone who is not the Contestmaster. Side Effect two: The Contestmaster must be immediately replaced to fulfill the balance of Reg 6 (the Point and Currency Transfer) *or* Rule 1446/0 mandates the dissolution of a Contestmasterless Contest. Can the Contestmaster be replaced? Unfortunately, no. The NMC Regs only provide explicitly for a Contestmaster forfeiting, or deregistering. So, once Reg 6 is invoked, the NMC contest ceases to exist once the Contestmaster goes on Hold. Because of the order of events, the point/currency transfer need not take place as mandated. If the Contestmaster Goes on Hold first, as written, the requirement ceases to be operative. Point 3) Again From 1446/0: "The Regulations specify the operation of the Contest. All Contestants, and the Contestmaster, are bound by the Regulations except where these conflict with the Rules." A violation of the Regs is a violation of 1446/0, provided the Regs do not violate the Rules. Point 4) Rule 1446/0 states: "A Contest is created when a Player Posts to the Public Forum an announcement of the contest, including the Name and Regulations." My post contained a name, "Revenge for TAL" (RFT) and a list of regulations, and was posted in the Public Forum. However, it contained the conditional phrasing: "Nice, this may work. If it does, I propose the following contest:" This is referring to TAL's "Make another Contestmaster" (MAC) Contest. However, the goal of the MAC contest was to transfer 90% of the Points from the Player with the highest score to TAL. This did not work. So the condition of this phrase was not met. Was this conditional phrasing legal? Unfortunately, (for me) I think not. According to the wording, a Contest becomes a Contest when the announcement appears. This announcement appeared long before the "work/not work" question was answered definitively. Since the conditional phrase was not part of the RFT Regs, it had no effect once the Contest was formed. Point 5) I legally created the RFT Contest by posting my message. >From the NMC Regs: "Reg. 5: In case any player legally creates a Contest, that player replaces the current Contestmaster, and becomes the new Contestmaster." TAL was then the Contestmaster of NMC, thus I replaced TAL and TAL Ceased being the Contestmaster of NMC. >From the RFT Regs: "1) The Contestmaster of this contest is TAL." Upon my becoming Contestmaster of NMC, TAL became Contestmaster of RFT. Point 6) TAL's Statement: "Swann violated Rule 1446 by not transferring all his points and Currencies to the No More Contests Contest Fund and by not going On Hold within an hour after creating his own revengeful Contest." Now I am supposed to judge the truth or falsity of this statement. According to my reasoningthus far, I could have satisfied the rules simply by going on Hold and dissolving the NMC contest. But this statement explicitly states that my violation was in not doing *both* the transfer *and* going On Hold. Not only that, but the wording of this Statement is in precisely the opposite order of that required in NMC Reg 6. I must therefore come to an implicit Point 7) Is it *possible* for me to Judge this Statement TRUE? The fact is, if I judge this statement TRUE, I am to issue an Injunction that I am on Hold, and have been since an hour after I became the Contestmaster of NMC. If I issue that Injunction, I am on Hold and I am ineligible to issue that Injunction. If I am ineligible to issue that Injunction, that Injunction has no effect, I am not on Hold. If I am not on Hold, I am mandated to issue that Injunction. It is impossible, due to this logical paradox, for me to issue a Judgement of TRUE. UNDECIDABLE is reserved for paradoxical Statements, not paradoxical Judgements. There is simply not enough ambiguity in this Statement, or in the Rules, for me to Judge UNKNOWN. After weighing each possible Judgement available to me, and bending over backwards to avoid even an appearance of bias in my own favor, I am only left with one possible decision, FALSE. In the end, this Judgement is based on a strict reading of the unconditional nature of the Statement, not necessarily in the intended argument. ---------------------------------------- References: ---------------------------------------- Rule 1016/2 (Semimutable, MI=2) Putting Oneself on Hold A Player may choose to be placed On Hold at any time by sending a message indicating such to the Public Forum. A Player may not place any other Player besides emself on Hold. A Player may cease to be On Hold by sending a message indicating such to the Public Forum, so long as it has been at least 96 hours since e last went On Hold. While On Hold, a Player may not Vote, propose Proposals, or campaign for or hold Office. E is also absolved of any duties which would otherwise be required of eim, including appointment as a Judge This rule takes precedence over any rule giving special duties to a particular player or a particular group of players. (*Was: 464/870*) History: ... Amended(1) by Proposal 1337, Nov. 22 1994 Amended(2) by Proposal 1374, Jan. 17 1995 Mutated from MI=1 to MI=2 by Proposal 1407, Jan. 29 1995 ---------------------------------------- Rule 692/2 (Mutable, MI=1) Trading Points A Player may voluntarily transfer Points to any other Player for any purpose, within the following limits: (a) the transfer must be posted to the Public Forum (b) a Player may only transfer a positive number of Points (c) a Player may not transfer more Points than e currently has (d) a Player may not transfer Points if the recipient has more than than 90% of the Points required to Win, or would pass this limit as a result of the transfer. If any agreement among Players includes any transfer of Points between two Players then each such transfer shall be in accordance with the above. But this Rule shall not be construed as having any bearing on the legality or legal enforceability of any terms of said agreement which do not involve such a transfer. All Nomic Entities shall abide by the above limits whenever Points are traded. If a Nomic Entity must trade Points by the current Rules but would end up breaking the above limits, then the Nomic Entity trades the maximum amount possible without breaking any of the above limits. This Rule shall have precedence over all other Rules pertaining to the Trading of Points. History: ... Amended(1) by Proposal 1360, Dec. 13 1994 Amended(2) by Proposal 1477, Mar. 8 1995 ---------------------------------------------- Rule 614/1 (Mutable, MI=1) Currencies: Transferring Currencies A player may voluntarily transfer any Currency in eir possession to any other player for any purpose by sending such a message to the Recordkeepor for that Currency, within the following limits: a) a player may only transfer a positive number of a Currency b) a player may not transfer more of a Currency than e currently has. This rule applies to Currencies in general, and thus defers to rules for specific Currencies. History: ... Amended(1) by Proposal 1470, Mar. 8 1995 ---------------------------------------- Rule 880/0 (Mutable, MI=1) No Vacations for Officers No Officer may be 'On Hold' while holding an Office. If a current Officer should place himself On Hold, he is assumed to have resigned without appointing a successor, and the Office should be re-filled in the normal manner. (*Was: 405*) ---------------------------------------- Rule 591/2 (Mutable, MI=1) Legal Judgements A legal Judgement is either TRUE, FALSE, UNDECIDABLE, or UNKNOWN. The Judgement of UNDECIDABLE is reserved for those statements which are logically neither TRUE nor FALSE. The Judgement of UNKNOWN is for those statements for which the Judge is unable to obtain information necessary to determine whether the statement is TRUE, FALSE, or UNDECIDABLE. The Judge must make a reasonable effort to obtain all information necessary to determine whether the statement is TRUE, FALSE, or UNDECIDABLE. The Judgement must be accompanied by reasons and arguments, which include, but are not necessarily limited to, citations of deciding Rules, past Judgements, and game custom. A Judgement delivered without reasons and/or arguments is completely invalid. Such reasons and arguments form no part of the Judgement itself. However, the Clerk of the Courts must distribute the reasons and arguments along with the Judgement. Any evidence which is used to justify the Judgement, other than appeals to Game Custom or to common sense, must be presented by the Judge. If the Judge introduces evidence beyond that submitted in the Call for Judgement, e must include this evidence in eir Judgement. All such added evidence must be distributed as part of the reasons and arguments by the Clerk of the Courts. History: ... Amended(1) by Proposal 1320, Nov. 21 1994 Amended(2) by Proposal 1487, Mar. 15 1995 ---------------------------------------- -- Steven Swiniarski (aka S Andrew Swann) email@example.com Whenever you have an efficient government you have a dictatorship. --Harry S Truman ====================================================================== -- kelly martin <firstname.lastname@example.org> I have been told that when a large group of people believe in a fantasy, it is called a culture. When a small group believes, it is called a cult. When two people believe in a fantasy, it is called love; and when one person believes, it is called psychosis.